Victor Tregubov: Analysis of the inferno at Ilovaisk

By Victor Tregubov
08.30.2014
Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

A full analysis of the situation that led to our troops being surrounded near Ilovaisk

The situation is as follows. What was originally planned?

It was originally planned to encircle the DNR and LNR [the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics], to put an end to the supply of arms and force them to surrender. This required encircling the main “islands,” including Donetsk and Luhansk.

Here we are interested in the subject of Donetsk. Take a look at the map, please, this is important. [Click on map to enlarge]:

See Highway “H21?” The road, which goes directly from Donetsk to the east, then turns north and goes to Luhansk?

In fact, it was a “road of life” for the DNR – because from the north, west and south, the road and Donetsk in particular were being surrounded by our troops. Through this highway, they established communication routes with Luhansk and the Russian border.

Our [troops] first tried to cut it off, by taking Shakhtersk. They were repulsed from there.

Then our [troops] hit from the south and went on to Ilovaisk.

Was this logical? Was this right?

In general, yes. It was logical and correct. But only assuming that Russian troops won’t flock across the border.

In this–is our weakness. Throughout this campaign we had to rely on the fact that Russia won’t cross another line. July’s encirclement in the south of Luhansk Oblast was caused by the assumption made by our troops that the Russians would not start firing across the border. Therefore, the Ilovaisk encirclement resulted from the fact that our forces wouldn’t entertain the idea that the Russians would pursue a direct, unconcealed invasion.

Guys, understand one very important thing: they wouldn’t consider it not because they are fools, but because by allowing all this, from the very beginning it was not worth risking and pressing forward onto the DNR with LNR. And even if this would cost [them], they would be forced to carry this out without trying to encircle it and cut them off from Russia and from each other, a simple blunt extrusion with huge losses. You would have not forgiven them yourselves. You would have shouted “you idiots, why are you forcing your way through the front–cut them off from the border! It’s obvious even to a hedgehog…”

By the way, we’re also building a defense on the assumption that Russia will not cross the very last line–the planes won’t fly, the marines won’t get deployed, the tanks won’t force their way through Chernihiv to Kyiv… Because judging from this, we should pull all the forces closer to the capital and key cities, giving up all of Donbas.

So, as for the Ilovaisk encirclement, look again at the map. After the failure near Shakhtarsk, our troops tried their luck at Ilovaisk. Its capture made it possible to control the fire at the same route and opened the way to Zuhres with the possibility of taking direct control over it. That is, to shut down the DNR. That is, to win at this stretch.

Our troops just started to get better at this. In a slip-shod manner, but it worked. The battalions that occupied part of Illovaisk even withstood a counter-attack by the DNR forces. And that is why, and also based on the fact that a relatively same situation was underway in Luhansk (adjusted for the local specifics there), Russia decided to cross the line.

Once again, look at the map. Russians rushed in from the south if you look, viewed from Ilovaisk–through Amvrosiivka and Kuteinykove. From Donetsk, as much as their conditions allowed, terrorists moved out (as I understand it, through Mospyne).

I’m quoting Semyonchenko:

“And then the enemy hit us again from Sector D, and then after, the AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine] unit that had to cover our rear “retreated.” No, I’m sure that they did not have such an order. They just “retreated” and some of them were caught already 150 km from that location. And then, the enemy hit from Novoazovsk, and then after, and then the enemy hit from Mospino in the direction of Starobesheve. And we got into the operational encirclement …”

Was it possible to hang in there? Maybe it was possible. But–the separate units that were supposed to cover them in those directions blankly deserted. Yes, it would have been unlikely that the Ukrainians would be able to hold them off–Russians rushed in in large forces and tanks, and they had only light weapons. But there was a chance to slow [the Russians] down and give the group in Ilovaisk an exit. At the minimum, there was an opportunity to notify the encircled [troops] about their retreat or to break through to them and depart [with them] together. No. They ran off.

Then I was criticized a lot for the fact that I used to call those deserters bad words. As in, how dare you.

Why, but I can, my kittens. For the dead and those encircled, say thanks to your heroic heroes who broke through to “retreat” right up to Delyatin. Don’t forget to buy them a cake and a pat their little heads.

Whatever it was, when the Ilovaisk group began to seriously consider the need to retreat, it was already too late. By my estimation, the clearance time was several hours. I could be wrong.

Next began the epic with “send reinforcements immediately.” At first it was not very realistic, since no one really had any to send–in fact, our troops were trying to hold their ground everywhere, from Savur-Mohyla to Novoazovsk. When our troops had at least slightly evened the line and pulled in some reserves, it was meaningless from a purely military standpoint. Due to the fact that the reinforcement at the magnitude that our troops could give, would only have fallen into the same encirclement.

Nevertheless, they tried to send certain reinforcements–on the day when there was an agreement on “the [humanitarian] corridor.” But this agreement was violated and–see above–at first, when they tried to exit along the “corridor,” they caught the shelling, and then got into encirclement [crucible] together with everyone else.

Result–the defeat of the Ilovaisk group.

Next. About who is to blame.

Were there any critical errors by the command?

They were some for sure. But not the errors many are now shouting about. The main mistake was that there were no reserves created, which were able to react to the situation in a timely manner. However, I cannot vouch that there were plenty [of people] to create them from–let someone who knows comment on this. Another incorrect prerequisite than the one I wrote about above–the fact that they didn’t consider that Putin would cross the line. But I have described this dilemma already: indeed, if one were to proceed from this assumption, the war would have to be carried out in a different way (or, more likely, not carried out).

A separate issue–was it worth it, bringing in the reinforcements into Ilovaisk by the 24th [of August], as was requested by Semyonchenko. Perhaps it would have been the right move, following the logic that would not allow for the Russian invasion. On the other hand, it is now obvious: if our troops had transferred additional reinforcements there then (into the city itself), as a result these forces would have ended up encircled together with everyone [else].

Here you go. I do not pretend [to know] the absolute truth: I am not on Bankova St. [Presidential Administration] and do not even sit on Rybalsky Island [General Intelligence Directorate of the Defense Ministry of Ukraine], they do not put intelligence reports on my desk. But from what I do know, the situation looks something like this.

Source: Glavpost.com

 

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Dmitry Tymchuk: Updates from the combat zone, September 8th, 2014

By Dmitry Tymchuk, Coordinator, Information Resistance
09.08.2014
Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

Operational data from the Information Resistance group:

Despite the declared ceasefire, Russian troops and terrorists continue to shell the positions of Ukrainian troops and civilian targets, including with the use of heavy weapons. Throughout the day, on September 7th, about 10 attacks were recorded.

Since yesterday (09.07.2014): the enemy has been active in the area of Mariupol, Donetsk, Debaltseve.

The Russian army and military units with small arms, mortar and rocket-propelled grenades carried out the shelling of positions and outposts of Ukrainian law-enforcers in the settlements of Zhdanovka, Zolote, Nizhnyaya Krynka, Fashchivka.

Ukrainian troops have returned fire only exclusively in response to [Russian] small arms fire. Ukrainian aviation and artillery troops did not respond.

 A Ukrainian solider guards a checkpoint near Debaltseve. (Sept 7 Gleb Garanich/Reuters)

A Ukrainian solider guards a checkpoint near Debaltseve. (Sept 7 Gleb Garanich/Reuters)

Source: Dmitry Tymchuk FB

 

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Wozu führt Putin einen Krieg in der Ukraine?

von Boris Nemzow, für Ukrainische Prawda
01.09.2014
Übersetzt aus dem Englischen von Dagmar Schatz für Voices of Ukraine

Auf den ersten Blick, aus der Sicht des psychisch gesunden Menschen, ist der Krieg zwischen Russland und Ukraine ein Alptraum, Wahnsinn, welcher für alle nur Leid, Konflikte und Probleme bringt.

Noch vor einem halben Jahr erschien dies absolut unrealistisch. Die Feindschaft zwischen zwei Völker zu entzünden, welche durch jahrhundertelange gemeinsame Geschichte verbunden sind, schafft nur der Feind der Russen und der Ukrainer.

Aber der Ablauf der Geschehnisse zeigt, dass es sich um ein höchst alptraumhaftes und blutiges Drehbuch des Brüder tötendes Krieges handelt. Das ist nicht unser Krieg, das ist nicht euer Krieg, das ist nicht der Krieg der zwanzigjährigen Fallschirmjäger. Das ist Putins Krieg.

Wozu braucht er diesen Krieg?

Er selbst hat schon auf diese Frage geantwortet: „Man muss die Verhandlungen über die politische Organisation der Gesellschaft und die Staatsbildung im Süd-Osten der Ukraine beginnen“. Er hat diese Erklärung erst jetzt gemacht, aber solche Aktivitäten, wie Entsendung der Separatisten, Waffenlieferungen, sein dringlicher Wunsch, Poroschenko dazu zu zwingen, die Verhandlungen mit den Putin-treuen Schläger – viele davon russische Staatsbürger – aufzunehmen, dies alles verriet seine Absichten lange Zeit vor seiner öffentlichen Zugeständnis.

Die Worte von Peskow, gleich nach Putins Äußerung hinterhergeschickt, man hätte Putin falsch verstanden, darf man nicht ernst nehmen. Er redet meist Unfug. Etwa, Putin sei mit Russland verheiratet… Russisch lesen können wir ohne ihn. Noch einmal. Putin: „Man muss die Verhandlungen über die politische Organisation der Gesellschaft und die Staatsbildung im Süd-Osten der Ukraine beginnen“. Zitatende.

Die Teilung der Ukraine gab es öffentlich als ein Ziel bis dato nicht, stellvertretend wurde eine sogenannte Idee der Föderalisierung aufgestellt. Die Heuchelei des Kremls besteht darin, dass man versucht, der Ukraine und dem ukrainischen Volk das aufzuzwingen, was den russischen Staatsbürgern selbst fehlt.

Russland ist schon lange (seit 2004) kein föderaler Staat mehr. Zaghafte Versuche, regionale Interessen – in erster Linie finanzielle – durchzusetzen werden aufs Härteste unterdrückt. Putin strebt also Teilung der Ukraine und Schaffung im Osten des Landes eines Marionettenstaates Noworossija, unter voller Kontrolle des Kreml – wirtschaftlich sowie politisch – an. Die Kontrolle über die Stahlindustrie und über die Rüstungsindustrie im Ostens der Ukraine ist für seinen Klan immens wichtig. Außerdem ist der Süd-Osten der Ukraine reich an Schiefergas, und dessen Fördern würde Wettbewerb zur Putins Gesellschaft „Gazprom“ schaffen. Schlechte Saison auf der Krim – niedrige Touristenzahlen, Preissteigerungen für Dienstleistungen und Nahrungsmittel, Mangel an Trinkwasser – zwingt zur Annexion des Süd-Ostens der Ukraine, um den Zugang zur Halbinsel zu schaffen.

Um diese Ziele zu erreichen, schickt Putin die Armee, inklusive Fallschirmjäger und Kadyrow-Söldner, liefert Waffen und Kampftechnik in den Osten der Ukraine. Um diese Ziele zu erreichen hat er Russland zur Isolation und zu Sanktionen geführt. Wegen dieser schwachsinnigen Ziele sterben Russen und Ukrainer. Und Russland versinkt in der Lüge, Gewalt und imperialer Hysterie.

Das alles könnte man leicht damit erklären, dass er psychisch krank ist. Viele denken manchmal so, inklusive des Autors dieses Artikels.

Es gibt aber auch andere Erklärung.

In seinem blutigen Handeln, im Entfachen des Brüder tötenden Krieges kann man sein Hauptziel erblicken – die Erhaltung der persönlichen Macht und des Geldes um jeden Preis.

Bis zum Anfang des Krieges sank die Zahl seiner Anhänger langsam, aber stetig. Die Gesellschaft – trotz der Zensur – verstand: an der Macht sind gierige, unmoralische Menschen, derer Hauptziel die persönliche Bereicherung ist. Die Partei der Diebe verlor ihre Stellungen und man brauchte eine großformatige Erschütterung, um diese Tendenz zu brechen. Und welche die Popularität und Vertrauen wieder herstellen würde.

In der Ukraine gab es den Beispiel der antikriminellen Revolution, infolge derer der Präsident/Dieb entmachtet wurde. Ach was, ihr habt euch getraut, auf die Straße zu gehen und den Präsidenten zu entmachten? Dafür muss Ukraine bestraft werden! Damit die Russen um Gottes Willen nicht auf die gleiche Idee kommen würden.

Außerdem hat die Ukraine einen europäischen Weg, und damit Hoheit des Gesetzes, die Demokratie und den regelmäßigen Wechsel der Macht, gewählt. Der Erfolg der Ukraine darin hat direkt Putins Machtsystem bedroht.

Putin hat die entgegengesetzte Richtung gewählt– den Kurs des lebenslangen Machterhalts, der Willkür und der Korruption. Jetzt, um nicht hinter die Gitter wegen der Verletzung des Grundgesetzes der russischen Föderation zu kommen – wegen des Einmarsches in ein anderes Land, ohne die Zustimmung des Föderationsrates der RF, und wegen der Verletzung der internationalen Verpflichtungen der russischen Föderation bezüglich der Nichtverbreitung der Atomwaffen – wegen der Verletzung des Budapester Memorandums, Putin hat für sich keinen anderen Ausweg gelassen als Präsident bis zu seinem Tode zu bleiben.

Äußerlich ist sein Verhalten – ein Wahnsinn, und in der Wirklichkeit – eine kalte Strategie der lebenslangen Despotie. Die Anhänger der „Russischen Welt“ erklären die Aggression Putins in Bezug auf die Ukraine damit, dass die postsowjetischen Republiken, inkl. Ukraine, eine Zone der lebenswichtigen Interessen Russlands bilden. Anstatt des Beispiels der Hoheit des Gesetzes, der Sicherheit, der Entwicklung und des hohen Lebensniveaus werden in die Köpfe der Menschen Konzepte der groben Gewalt und Drohung gesetzt.

Damit erreicht man das Gegenteil.

Die Ukraine strebt nun den NATO-Beitritt an, obwohl sie vor dem Krieg einen blockfreien Status hatte. Die NATO selbst ist stärker als früher geworden. Außerdem hat Putin’sche Aggression das ukrainische Volk zusammengeschweißt, der Kampf um die Unabhängigkeit und territoriale Integrität wurde zur nationalen Idee. Das heißt, keine der von Putin angestrebten Ziele ist erreicht worden. Alles geschieht genau umgekehrt.

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Famous Ukrainian Journalist Tetyana Chornovol Fighting in Azov Battalion In Place of Her Husband Who Died in Battle

By iPress.ua
09.05.2014
Translated by Stepan Nikitchuk and edited by Voices of Ukraine

“Now she is fighting for Mariupol with Azov Battalion”

Tatiana Chornovol. Journalist Tetyana Chornovol together with Azov Battalion is defending Mariupol from invasion by Russian troops. Photo: twitter.com/BojanowskiW

Tatiana Chornovol. Journalist Tetyana Chornovol together with Azov Battalion is defending Mariupol from invasion by Russian troops. Photo: twitter.com/BojanowskiW

The Polish journalist Wojciech Boyanovski reported it on his Twitter page:

– he wrote under the photo, which shows Tetyana Chornovol in a flak jacket and a helmet.

As reported by iPress.ua, Tetyiana Chornovol’s husband Nicholai Berezovyi was a fighter in the volunteer Azov Battalion. On August 10, he was wounded and died from loss of blood during the battle for the city of Ilovaisk.

After the death of her husband, Tetyana Chornovol resigned from the position of the government commissioner for anti-corruption policy.

On September 4, about 20 tanks and several military vehicles and Russian fighters of the DNR [Donetsk People’s Republic] moved to Mariupol. In the area of the village of Shirokino, that is 23 km from Mariupol, Ukrainian troops stopped and repulsed their attack.

Yesterday the mayor of the city of Mariupol Yurii Hotlubey said that the local government has decided to form a volunteer battalion called Mariupol on the basis of the Azov Battalion.

Source: iPress.ua

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Ukrainians Fight Against 20 Russian Army Brigades and Regiments

By FreeJournal
08.28.2014
Translated by Stepan Nikitchuk and edited by Voices of Uk aine

About 20 brigades and regiments of the Russian army are being thrown against Ukraine in Donbas. So writes the journalist network site: The Forgotten Regiment (zpolk.org):

"The most difficult thing for the relatives of the dead is to find and bring home [the dead] to bury their bodies. Nobody usually knows where the military unit that their son, husband, or brother serves in can be redeployed."

“The most difficult thing for the relatives of the dead is to find and bring home [the dead] to bury their bodies. Nobody usually knows where the military unit that their son, husband, or brother serves in can be redeployed.”

Therefore, we publish this information about which troops have been moved into areas of active combat in Ukraine. We hope that this will become a reference point for family members who are worried about the fate of their relatives serving in the military.

This information, for obvious reasons, cannot be absolutely 100% accurate. But it is confirmed by fragmentary statements coming from the [Russian Federation] Ministry of Defense and journalist publications.

From the South Military District, Ground Forces and Artillery:

– Combat-Tactical Group (CTG) from the 18th Motorized Brigade based in Hankala/Kalynovska, Chechnya (the so-called Chechen battalion)

– CTG from the 17th Motorized Brigade – Shali, Chechnya

– CTG from the 136th Motorized Brigade – Botlikh, Dagestan

– CTG from the 205th Motorized Brigade – Budenovsk, Stavropol Region

– CTG from the 19th Motorized Rifle Brigade – Vladikavkaz, North Ossetia

– CTG from the 7th Military Base from the occupied Abkhazia, Georgia

– CTG from the 33rd Mountain Infantry Brigade – Maikop, Adygea

– Combined Division from the 291st Artillery Brigade – Troitskaya, Ingushetia

– Combined Company from the 78th Logistics Brigade – Budenovsk, Stavropol Region.

From the Airborne Troops:

– CTG from the 76th Division – Pskov

– CTG from the 98th Division – Ivanovo

– CTG from the 45th Separate Special-Purpose Regiment – Kubinka

– CTG from the 247th Regiment of the 7th Division – Novorossiysk.

CTG/RTG and divisions of the Ground Forces and Artillery units of the South Military District

– from the 20th Motorized Brigade – Volgograd

– 34th Mountain Infantry Brigade – Karachay-Cherkessia

– Division from the 943rd Artillery Regiment – Krasnooktyabrskoe, Adygea (MLRS “Hurricane”)

– Division from the 1st Missile Brigade – Krasnodar (PTRC “Tochka-U”, “Iskander-M”)

– 23rd Motorized Rifle Brigade – Samara

BTG / RTG from Airborne

– from the 56th Air Assault Brigade – Volgograd

– 106th Division – Tula

RTG / DRG (sabotage and reconnaissance groups)

– From the parts of the GRU stationed in the South of Russia

– the 10th Special-Purpose Brigade – Molkino, Krasnodar Region

– 22nd Special-Purpose Brigade – Aksai, Rostov Region

– 100th Experimental Reconnaissance Brigade – Mozdok, North Ossetia

– 346th Special-Purpose Brigade – Prokhladnyi, Kabardino-Balkaria

– 25th Special-Purpose Regiment – Stavropol

– 2nd Special-Purpose Brigade – Pskov

– 16th Special-Purpose Brigade – Tambov

– 3rd Special-Purpose Brigade – Ulyanovsk.

Source: freejournal.biz

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